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July 03, 2008

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Awesome story! Reminds me a little of the very first patient I saw after completing residency. He was a stubborn little old guy who spoke mostly Russian, and he came in with a chart the thickness of a nice piece of filet mignon. After reading through it, I realized that he had multiple myeloma, but was flat out refusing to admit it. He even threatened to sue me if I said he had that diagnosis!

Well, since I was totally wet-behind-the-ears, I had no clue how to handle this. I tried to be nice and empathetic, like they taught us in residency, but you can guess how successful that was. Finally I just started yelling at him. I told him that he was killing himself and practically shoved the hematology reports in his face. His daughters had come in from California, and they started pressuring him, too! He eventually agreed to an oncology consult, and for the first time ever, he said "Thank you."

I never saw him again. He never made it to the oncology consult; he died before being seen. But I won't forget the experience, since it taught me that sometimes the kid gloves need to come off.

Wonderful post! So nice to hear about a physician who is supportive of natural birth.

"Maternal intolerance of labor". I am going to have to remember that one.

delighted to read of this event.you are to be congratulated to have waited two and a half hours in second stage.i practise OBGYN with a large Obst client in The Fiji Islands.Sometimes all stratgies need to be applied with different clients with differing backgrounds.Sometimes when we prepare the patient for instrumentation-forceps , invariably the baby is pushed out.Sometimes we get upset with our own stratergies but a healthy baby and a content mother is what counts.

You spoke her language. I had a midwife who was of the "let it all hang out mentality" and accused me of wanting to be in control and I froze on her until a nurse came in and covered me up and said, "Tea just wants choices! She doesn't need to be in control-- neither of you have it!" Then she gave me choices in little things and I felt listened to.

Another time my doctor said that if he gave me another shot that we'd narc my baby up, but I was in EXTREME pain. He seemed to have relented when he said that he was giving me another shot when I later found out that it was saline being injected into my saline bag-- but it had the effect that I needed.

I think that what you describe is where the ART in medical arts comes in!

If she was going around saying "Can you believe that doctor cussed me out!?!" you'd have a problem. She's not ..she's saying "She knew exactly what I needed." your instincts guideded you ...

you did great!

She was right. You told her what she needed to hear when she needed to hear it.

You brought her focus back.

Maybe it was a bit unorthodox, but a healthy woman gave birth to a healthy baby because you cared enough not to take the path of least resistance (C-section).

You, my friend, rock! : )

Excellent description. :)

Well, in rural India it is not a common practice for deliveries to be conducted under a male physician, most of the deliveries occur under the guidance of a female attendant. This attendant is a Dai/a midwife/a nurse or a lady doctor.
In many a primary health centers manning a male physicians, nurses are there to support. Women would like to be deliver their babies in their home than under the guidance of a male physician.

But, things are changing and for good. Educated families are now visiting male physicians for common OBG problems.

Awesome!! Gotta love that transitional stage as well...

Thanks for stopping by, everyone!

Glad to know I'm not alone out there in the boot-camp philosophy of the second stage!

TBTAM, I'm glad to get an OB's endorsement on laboring down rather than pushing the moment complete dilation is attained. As for epidurals--we don't have dedicated OB anesthesia, so most of the time I can't get one for our patients. I do intrathecals, however. Much better for the second stage, imho.

f***ing awesome post!

I totally agree, BTW, that women should be left to wait to push. Until you feel it, it's next to impossible. Epidurals, however, take all the sensation away, so I guess it doesn't matter much anymore.

I 100% understand. I had a client with whom I was cajoling, humorous, stern, frustrated, begging, instructing, physically interactive and ultimately resigned that were moving into the hospital from her wished-for homebirth.

In the hospital, the nurse was a total b*&^h and told her, "We aren't nice here like those (almost spitting the word out) midwives you have. We get babies out."

The baby was +2 and hadn't moved from when we began pushing 2 hours earlier.

But that nurse - and the incredible anger of another nurse - propelled my client to FINALLY push the baby out.

In talking to the client afterwards, we realized she was used to the anger and yelling aspects - she'd been in the military. All my methods were for nothing. She needed someone to get mad at her. I could never have done that. Frustrated as all get out, yes. Angry? Never.

Your post outlines perfectly how every woman is different and different women need different "prompts" to get their babies out. Some women need the Hypnobirthing prompt - to "breathe" their babies down. Other women don't do anything until there are fingers in the vagina pressing, pressing, pressing... "Push HERE! Feel it? Right THERE." Still others barely need three good 3 x 10 count pushes and the babes' in their arms.

I think the mark of a good (great!) provider is one who is flexible and understanding of the variety of possibilities that might be needed and utilized.

I think you were fantastic.

Wow, what a great story!

(Hi! I'm Xavier! I just found your blog through Liana at Med Valley High).

I'm considering rural family medicine actually, so I'm really enjoying catching up on your archives! I'll be back :)

Hahahaha!! Great job! That was a funny story, and you handled the situation soooo well. And at least she didn't mind the cursing!

Great, very funny story!

You followed your instincts - sometimes nonconventional is the way to go.

Great story. I think you did the right thing in that context - and more importantly, the patient knows you did. I, however, feel less interested in becoming pregnant than ever before. :)

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