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Extremely long but very useful and informative article. How i wish i can do all of that in a short period of time. But for sure doing those will produce results. I will try to spread your words through my blog and link it back to you. Thanks a lot for those tips.

try highwire.stanford.edu

A tip only applicable to UCSF (perhaps for your next visit).

The hospital library at SFGH is a "branch" so to speak of UCSF and as such they have access to the UCSF subscribed journals. They are extremely nice and have a bank of computers for "staff & students" that do not have a sign-in code. They also have old paper journals for many of the core clinical journals. They also have "public" computers usually used by hospital patients for which there is usually no wait.

They do not participate in the UCSF copy card scheme and charge $.25 per copy, but do have USB ports and I believe you can save the articles.

You might want to check them out on your next visit. Parking is better than on Parnassus. There is also a regular shuttle between them and the main campus. Call first for hours [usually 8 to 6 weekdays]; if there is a campus holiday on a Monday or Friday they often close for a three day weekend.

Hope this helps.

p.s. I enjoyed all your pics of the UCSF library!

You might look into using Loansome Doc, which was developed to aid rural doctors and others gain access to the literature.

Sign up for an account in PubMed, using the "order documents" link on the left side of the PubMed page. You'll find a list of participating medical libraries as you go through the process of signing up for the account. You'll need to contact the library of your choice for authorization and to see what their terms are. Some libraries offer services at no charge, while others may charge a modest fee.

Then when you need articles, you can order them through PubMed and they just show up in your email box, in PDF format, often within a couple of days.

Find out more about Loansome Doc at
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/loansomedoc/loansome_home.html

Kelly is right - it's almost certainly the publisher's license restrictions that prevent you from getting copies of the PDFs.

You know you don't have to scan all of those PDF articles into a reference software. You can easily download the citation from PubMed and upload it into the reference software. It keeps track of the information just as neatly but without taking up all of the space of having the PDF of the article.

I love library research!

Have you ever heard of EBSCO? It is a subscription service. They provide access to hundreds of journals (in pdf format)from different publishers. Their core BioMedical Collection would probably be what you would be interested in.

I have only used it on an institutional level. Maybe you can convince your hospitalist group to get a subscription? I am not sure what the pricing is for individual subscriptions, but the institutional pricing wasn't horrid, from what I remember.

I love their format, too. You can do advanced searching using PubMed (Medline) or many of a multitude of permutations. They have folders and saved searches and emailing options...I sound like a commercial.

They can provide a list of titles in their different subscriptions, or, you can do a quick search on PubMed. Go to "link out" on any article you need and see if EBSCO is one of the links out. It usually is, especially on the most commonly accessed journals.

I had access to every article I wanted while doing honours, but don't now that I am not doing research any more. What I do have is friends who will download articles for me if my university doesn't subscribe to it (in exchange for me proof reading their thesis drafts).

Not being able to have articles in pdf form and search them is a pain...when they have been scanned in a sloppy manner so that the text is at an angle to the horizontal it is very frustrating as well....

I'm a serials librarian at a medical school in the UK, so I may be able to explain.

Electronic journals are usually acquired in "bundle" form from the publisher (i.e. the library pays for an annual licence, the price of which is usually quite astronomical *ahem*, to obtain all the titles said publisher produces, or in the case of very large publishers, all of the health & life sciences titles). These bundles come with tedious and convoluted licence agreements that the library must adhere to, or risk losing their licence altogether. Licences restrict access to staff and students of the institution only, which means that alumni (amongst other visitors) are not entitled to access the electronic journals.

I guess that explains why you couldn't download articles to your USB drive. The issue isn't the USB drive per se, it's the fact that the publisher doesn't want you to access the journals, and the library has no choice but to enforce that.

The publisher, of course, wants you to pay $30 per article instead.

It sucks.

It's not just the library users who suffer, the library budget does as well. One other major stipulation of most licence agreements is that libraries are not allowed to cancel their print subscriptions, even if they also have electronic access and NO ONE uses the print journals. Some libraries are now choosing to toss the print journals in the recycling bin as soon as they arrive in the post. It's an astonishing waste of money - not to mention trees. But hey, the publisher can't risk losing out on income...

I could rant on for days...

Hi Rachel--yes, I tried to be crafty and email the PDFs to myself, but what I received was the "log in to your account and get ready to pay for your PDF" screen for the journal. (Thanks to the wonder of the iPhone I was able to check incoming email right away.)

I suppose I'm asking a bit much to get my papers for free or low cost AND be paperless as well, but here I am with a solar roof over my head and a hybrid parked in the garage and I'm compelled to print 100+ pages because the library won't accept a USB drive? I mean--geez.

Gah, I'm sorry your experience was so frustrating. I don't know about the USB drive policy, but I wonder if maybe you could have emailed the PDFs to yourself? I hope that in medical libraries in general, things are going to become easier-we've installed a networked copier/scanner, for example, so even if you need to copy from print, you can scan and send the PDF to your email rather than making paper copies if you like. The NIH public access policy may also be of help in the future as NIH-funded articles start to be deposited in PubMed Central. It frustrates me to hear of others having frustrating library experiences.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the offer, Rixa--I'm probably going to take you up on it one day.

Bardiac: I don't think my research rises to the level of grantworthiness at this point. There are also some advantages to being an independently funded scholar, although a cheap bill of fare is not among them.

Robin: when I was a med student--not so long ago--we had to photocopy everything. Thanks for the free sagepub tip.

I have access to a medical school library, thus can download about all journal articles for "free". I can't imagine having to print them all. I agree...that's a waste!

As an FYI, Sage Publications is offering free access to all their online journals/digital media this week:

http://www.sagepub.com/home.nav

Also, you're aware of the costs to make your copies, but you don't mention the costs of making copies when you worked as a research assistant. I'm guessing (from my own work) that those copies were paid for through a grant, and that monies also went from the grant, department, or other institutional group to help buy subscriptions for the library (or copying rights).

I'm also guessing that a grant or something paid for your time.

Time to write up a grant proposal?

I am really spoiled--I have access both through my graduate student institution (although that will end this semester once I graduate) and through my husband's college. Faculty spouses have full access to the library's electronic databases, ILL system, etc. And if you ever need something electronically, I am willing to help out!

Aaron--good suggestion. Currently I'm precepting DO students but I know my former advisor at UCSF is interested in sending students up here.

If you became a preceptor for a medical school (taking a student for 2-4 wks every so often), that could make you affiliated and you'd have access to that schools information resources.

I know a dermatologist who does this.

An added benefit of this is that you'd be able to have that same medical student look up and download those papers for you...as long as it was also part of their education of course.

-AAD

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