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I'm a GP (FP to you) in Australia. We dont do obs in the semi-rural areas. We can expect to earn $300,000 - $500,000 gross with 40 -30% expenses.

Burnout stinks. Thanks for sharing your story though. The lack of support from your colleagues (who really were compromising patient care) sounds awful. It would frustrate me intensely.

Good for you. It is not always easy to quit a job, even one that makes you less than satisfied. It seems you gave it the effort it deserved, probably more than that, and you did enough. Let your one-way colleagues send dump notes to each other between dodging drug seekers. Sounds as if they deserve each other.

This is really disheartening to read. Can't fault your choice...and I've certainly never taken a walk in your shoes...but I hope that after a year or two of respite as a hospitalist, you'll consider a primary care career again. Sounds like the particulars of your practice situation were a dominant issue. Even with the financial issues, would you have considered staying on if your colleagues were better people?

Don't feel bad. No normal person can do what you were doing for very long. I did rural psychiatry for a time and found it too wearing until I stopped being a public utility and put up protective barriers.

You are right that it isn't the money. When you are miserable, you look to salary as a morale booster and if it isn't there, then what do you have? I now work in a no bullshit situation and no stress making the kind of money you are talking about--about 2/3 of what I was first able to make when I went back to the city--and I love it and find the pay plenty enough. The larger sum earlier was woefully inadequate--for what it took to make it. It isn't what you make but the net balance between what you make, how much of your soul you kill making it, and what other rewards are to be gained.

I was initially attracted to rural medicine because of my own rural roots. in the last 30 years, rural America has changed a great deal from the proud self-sufficient respectful and hard working people of my youth. I guess those folks moved to the suburbs also.

Agree with you about the demographic difference in patients. I worked in FP in the Central Valley of CA.....difficult resource problems including no specialists especially mental health, but great patient respect and incredible gratitude from Latino population. I then moved to working with a very underserved African American patient population in NY......many specialists, lots of patient respect despite large number of substance abusing patients (apparently they had good relationships with their street dealers in order to keep good relationships with me), lots of resources for HIV patients (which is who I was caring for). I now work in rural Michigan (lest you think I hop, this is over 35 years of time) and have exactly the patient population you describe. High, high, substance abuse, entitlement ( they expect us to be their dealers), no money, no specialists for uninsured/medicaid patients, high provider burnout in primary care.

Thanks. This was a good one. I think the one I most experienced was the first one - the entitled, aggravated type of patient...I really couldn't take it much in that kind of environment. Especially the expectations of everything for free, the transportation, Weight Watchers, etc...people who work couldn't afford some of the things that people were demanding from the system. I think that broke a lot of my idealism in just three months or so of working there (inner city, but same idea).

Yes, I remember a lot of those problems which is why I switched regular hours also. Burnout.
Thanks for the memories

Hi everyone!

Rini--hard to explain why we live in California, but most of the usual reasons apply: I was born here, I went to college and med school here, formed my philosophy and identity in the landscape surrounding me. Those sorts of things. And Gary is right--the weather. I live very near the coastline and the landscape is beautiful. Lots of good reasons to live here. Cost of living is not one of them.

Jared--Yes I have thought about moving away and working in a health care environment similar to my residency experience. I'm going to touch upon this in the next post in the series.

Cheers!

Did you ever consider moving out of Rural and going back to the kind of environment you were in during residency?

Seems like that may have saved the dream?

It's the weather

I would be interested to read sometime why you choose to live and work in California. (I may have merely missed this post, but a quick Google search didn't turn one up...) Having never been there myself, I struggle to figure out why so many people and businesses center in a state with such an outrageous cost of living!

re: points 1/2 I work in 2 ERs with just that difference in populations; it is stark and only 20 miles apart

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