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November 03, 2008

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What all primary care providers fail to tell everyone when they complain about the problems with their profession is that they are trying to see more patients to keep their salary at some level that they have established in their heads that they should make. They develop expecations based on what their colleagues make, some of which are in specialty medicine, and they believe that they are entitled to make that much money. There is no law that says you can't schedule patient visits at 30 or 60 minute intervals. Primary care providers simply refuse to consider such a possibility because it will fail to meet their preconcieved notion of the amount that they believe they are entitled to make. Despite all of your frustrations that you voiced here, that is the fundamental problem that you had. Instead of accepting what you can reasonably make by doing the job correctly, you make the mistake of trying to schedule too many patient visits in a day, and it isn't to keep your head above water as you say, it is so that you can meet your earnings expectations. My thought is that you have all set your expectations too high. Lower the earnings expectations and everything else will fall into line for you.

As a patient, I don't think I've ever been told that I was going to have a 15 minute appointment -- or any other length, for that matter. The closest I've come is when someone would talk about whether or not I needed a comprehensive appointment, but I did realize at some point that bringing a list of symptoms was not a good idea. It was counter to what I had learned many years earlier (probably when docs were less rushed) which was that I should tell the doctor everything that was going on.

I do remember wondering, occasionally, how doctors could manage their appointments and their time, but I figured that was their business, not mine. And, back in the day, I guess doctors had the flexibility to leave some unscheduled time as padding to allow for the unexpected.

I think patients do need to know more about what to expect, in appointments. Perhaps expectations need to be voiced when the appointment is made. The patient may realize then if they need more time and set up a longer appointment, and, of course, we should know how long our appointment actually is.

Great post. I would like to mention that not all concierge practices are created equal. My doc offers a pay-as-you-go model, with a yearly fee of only $200. He charges by the hour, and patients can buy as much (or as little) time as they want. He does what's appropriate (phone/email/in-office visit) and gets paid for it. I love the convenience and pay out of my HSA. I have high deductible, catastrophic coverage in case of emergency. I save thousands/year on insurance premiums and get A+ care. I'm going to have him describe his model on my blog soon... stay tuned. :)

doctorjen--I admire your partner's longevity in the profession, and yours too! A lot of nonsense has to go through a physician's hands to get authorized (jury duty, etc.), the word "gatekeeper" doesn't even begin to capture the absurdity. Maybe "gamekeeper."

Emily--Very good points. I think people are baffled by how medical offices function, what the "unwritten" rules are. What tends to happen is all fifteen patients in a morning will come in with just one extra question, each of which sets the provider back 5-10 minutes. Sometimes what I had to do was shave a few minutes off the visit of a perfectly reasonable person just to make up time--not fair! I think the public tends to attribute this rushed attitude as the fault of the doctor but I've found myself being rushed (or extremely late) simply because people's needs were overwhelming.

Thanks everyone.

While I'm sympathetic to the plight of family practice doctors with annoying patients, I have to say that the reason some of us complain is that even when we're NOT annoying (i.e. we come in with one question/issue) we still get the same rushed treatment. I've had visits with my doctor that were literally less than five minutes. He pretty much walked in, peered at the spot on my arm, and walked back out. That was it, and a nurse came in a few minutes later to inform me that I'd have to get the mole removed but not now, later, I'd have to make another appointment. This after I had made the appointment specifically to have the mole diagnosed and likely removed - the staff knew this and had not mentioned that it might be a problem to do both diagnosis and treatment at the same time.

Had there been better communication on the part of both staff and doctor, I would have been much less irritated. So I guess I'm just saying that not all of us are nitwits with questions like you listed. And there just might be some of the fault at the doctor's door, too.

Those scanned masses of past notes on EMRs (in Australia a program called Medical Director is used in a lot of GP surgeries) are highly frustrating......

Loved your list of real life questions...have seen lots like it and sometimes it makes one want to tear ones hair out...

Sigh. I'm sort of fantasizing over your series on leaving full-service family practice lately. In general, I can't imagine doing anything else - but you hit the nail on the head with your list of things that were bothersome about it, and right now all of those things are bugging me. Today, I saw a young woman who brought a list with 17 issues to be addressed! At least I had the courage to tell her we were going to have to prioritize. I also saw a newly diagnosed cirrhotic gentleman who is really struggling emotionally with his diagnosis, an 88 yr old lovely woman who needed medical clearance to take a driver's test, and poorly controlled bipolar client who can't get a psych appt for 3 mos because he's not suicidal. I filled out multiple notes to get back into school, to get out of school, to prior auth meds, tests, or referrals, and received a note from one lady who hasn't seen me in a year wanting me to fill out medical leave paperwork for the 20 something days she's missed due to her migraines! I also saw 3 inpatients this morning.
The paperwork/prior auth/formulary change requests/FMLA/disability/medical clearance/DME forms are going to put me over the edge. I'm happier with my compensation model that you were with yours, but my practice still makes below the national average for a family doc because we a are a rural private practice that is heavily medicare-medicaid dependent. My 2 partners who own the practice are not holding out on me, or overworking me exclusively, and are wonderful colleagues to work with - but we are all over-worked and underpaid and generally stressed.
If you get that handout written on reasonable expectations for clients I'd love to see it! I'm awaiting your recommendations for young doctors, too - although I've been in practice longer than you have. I've been practicing full service family practice including maternity care and attending births since 2 weeks after finishing residency in 2001. I tell my senior partner sometimes that I just don't think I can do this for 30 years, and he says he's been saying that for the last 26 years.

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